
Israel's air force fired about 30 missiles at targets in the Gaza Strip, destroying several Hamas compounds and killing at least 40 people, a Hamas police spokesman said, according to Reuters.
Gee . . . let me think about this. If I don't have fanatics shooting rockets into Israel, I don't get any retaliation attacks and live somewhat in peace. If I continue to fire rockets into and onto Israel, they retaliate at the provocation and I suffer more damage to life and property. Do I fire more rockets? Or, do I ask for more retaliation?
How smart do you think these Gazans might be? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out! Stop firing the damn rockets!
Runaway bull
The Palestinians were shooting rockets into Israel, not rocks, so yes if you were shooting rockets at Israel would say it was okay for Israel to shoot a missile up you kazoo in retaliation.
Guided missiles from jets or choppers is much different than mortar rockets from the ground....Again, Israel has the right to defend itself but will not gain sympathy in it's means.
Every time we are about to have a new president this type of saber rattling occurs.
If a mortar rocket other then a guided missile kills you would you be less dead.
The only thing you have right is Israel has the right to defend itself and if the other side has inferior weapons that only prove how stupid they are in attacking a superior force in the first place.
The Jews warned the Palestinians to stop or they would respond and are far more advanced and will do so. They did and will again, and again. I hope untill the end of time as we know it for if they do not, it is the END.
P.S. All you Jew haters, (and ya know who you are as we do), should go visit your Bros in Gaza for a week and hear the hate they spew to young kids so they too can hate the JEWS for no other reason than they are JEWS. Generation after Generations of hate. It will never stop in our lifetime or our grandkids either.
Excuse me, I've been to Gaza, I've seen Israeli soldiers point guns at ten year old boys who were playing a bit too loud, that was until they saw that there were non-nationals looking, I've talked to both palestinian AND Israeli students, how the Israeli government were denying the basic human rights of a whole people, including freedom of speach, movement, food, education (due to the curfew), and I'm sorry, but regardless of defense or not, the Israeli government have ALWAYS met violence with violence, demanded complete and utter suppression without giving any leeway. The Palestinians are not innocent of crimes, but the Israeli government has brought this on due to their own stubborness and arrogance on their reliance of American support. And actually, I found the Israeli students far more bigoted than their Palestinian counterparts.
With all the fighting they are doing nothing has been solved. Both sides live in fear everyday of a bombing. That's some way of living. We are all only renting a short time on this earth. It seems like a waste of time fighting all the time. If there were a God he isn't a very good parent for allowing his children to fight and kill each other. I hope one day they get a group from each side who think outside the box. People who come up with different idea's that would benifit both sides.
Leah and Mike: You should both try to find a history book (something you obviously never read in high school) and read about what it was that the Nazis did, and then consider what the middle east would look like today if Israel used the concepts that they were shown in the early 40's by Germany.
Why no talk of the land that was stolden from the people of East Prussia? In the attack that stold the East Prussian land refugee columns were straffed from the air. Many many were killed, yet probably many reading this will have no idea of who the East Prussians are even tho the taking of East Prussia occured at almost the same year (1945) as the establishment of Israel (1948).
Why are the Arabs not arguing that the occupiers of Palistine and East Prussia should leave.
If the occupation of East Prussia is ok then what is wrong with the present location of Israel?
Or the Armenian genocide before that !
The Israelis withdrew from Gaza on September 12, 2005. They hoped that allowing the Palestinians to rule themselves would lead to peace. Instead, the Palestinians have been firing rockets into Israeli border towns daily, repeatedly stated their desire to wipe Israel off the map and have ignored repeated Israeli warnings to cease fire or expect a military response.
I don't know of any other nation which would not respond to daily attacks on its civilians from a neighboring land, unless it wanted to commit suicide. The Israelis don't appear to want to commit suicide. How can you blame them?
Russell: stolden? Is that English? Or East Prussian?
Next when you talk of "East Prussia" do you mean the federation of states that hasn't existed since the 1800's
Would you be refering to Hungary and Czhekoslovokia?
Or do you live on a diffrent planet than I do?
Last, the article was about Israel and Hammas.
Seems Israel has a right to defend itself from suicide bombers and rockets.
All this reminds me of something a really cool guy said once.
"An eye for an eye
will make us all blind."
Mahatma Ghandi.
God said, "An eye for an eye...."
God lives. Ghandi's dead.
jesus said love your enemy. the jews are worshipping the wrong deity.
Israel has every right to defend herself, there is not another alternative given the sworn statements of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and others to push all the Jews into the Med. And, given how they have treated the Lebanese Christians, Coptics, and Bahai Faithful, they sure as hell mean it.
Its a good thing Israel has modern military technology and armaments, war planes, and other weapons to use against Hamas and anyone else who would attack and kill her population. If she is lax in using these, because she is seeking world opinion, when incidents like Mumbai occur, when she is rocketed for a week while trying to find an answer without bloodshed, she is justified.
The problem with Ghandi's idea is, how do you teach it to some one that has, for thier entier life; been taught NOT to think for themselves?
Finally IDF strikes back... Inocent people? Wtf??? 80% of palestinians citizens are potentially terrorists of Hamas organization, even more then 80%. Everybody saw the Palestinians teenagers and children with guns, it resembles the Somali childrens..hhhhh
Don't forget, right after 911; over three thousand Americans lay dead among the twisted destruction of the Twin Towers, the rubble of four American passenger planes were mixed with pieces of the dead, and the Palestinians were passing out candies, and cakes to each other while dancing in the streets in joyous celebration.
When the media started making this story page one, Arafat collected all the media reporters and kicked them out of Palestine so they could go on partying.
We will never again lie down and let anyone kill us. Retailiation isn't enough. How much must Israel give up in order to achieve the peace they will never have? They can kill Israelis, but Israel cannot retaliate? C'mon - something ain't right here.
Never again!!!!
Okay, for the sake of clarity, What exactly has Israel given up.
Now, I'm not asking this this out of sarcasm, but because I would really like your view on this. maybe I missed something along the history road, and you might enlighten me on this.
Don't you understand yet? These people don't have any problems with Jews being murdered! They only worry about terrorist murderers being killed. Israel should behave for once like every other country in the world would. Don't hold back & eradicate the terrorists once and for all. Make them suffer so severely so they remember not to do it again. But they won't. Israel will hold back like it always does & the terrorists will continue bombing Israel. These radicals would rather be terrorists. The pay is not bad, the hours are great and it beats working for a living. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!
denis, in every major conflict isreal has gained territories and mostly returned them in so doing they have given up their security.
Israel just made the world a little more unsafe. Those bombs that fell have "Made in America" on them. Hate breeds hate.
I wonder why we don't see a return to the days of UN peace keepers? Plop some 3rd party military in between the two of them and prevent either side from attacking the other. Then proceed to enforcing real negotiations -- not the kind where Israel starts out by disallowing certain topics to even be discussed.
docroc: Why bring the UN into the picture? They are both anti-Semitic and anti-Israel, but very much for the Palestinian "cause" to take over the land of Israel. The UN is good for nothing (literally). They ought to be dismantled, and fast. They seem to be a bunch of crooks in any case.
Dissent into hell, the nation of Israel was established by the United Nations, not the United States. A good way to sort this out. If the Palestinians renounced aggression, what would happen? Gee, they just might have to go to the negotiating table and settle their differences. If the Israelis were to unilaterally to renounce aggression, what would happen? Huge massacre and extermination of Israel and it's people. With Hamas in existence and in power, with it's avowed goal of destruction of Israel and it's people, what are the two sides going to talk about? Hey Palestinians, we'll give you the West Bank if you'll only murder half of our population. My own personal opinion after watching this stupidity for the last 40+ years, is that I've seen the Israelis doing a hell of a lot of giving, and the various and sundry (emphasis on sundry) Palestinian factions doing all of the taking, and rarely even slackening in their aggression. It amazes me that Israel hasn't just said to hell with this death of a thousand cuts, and mounted an operation against all Palestinian enclaves that would make the '67 war look like a Sunday bake sale, including control and command centers in neighboring countries. Especially those known to be funding and orchestrating their aggression. When you are fighting annihilation, touchy-feely goes out the window.
Israel was basically founded by the British as one of the many outcomes of Great Game politics from WWI and before. Like all such actions, it was accomplished using the underlying fiction that no one was on the land to start with -- at least no one that mattered. In fact, nearly 3/4 of a million Palestinians were displaced into camps, where their descendants live today.
Naturally, the ill-feeling this founding caused did lead to some widespread anger in the Arab world. And Israeli actions since -- land grabs and settlement by militant, often rascist Jews in areas formerly occupied by Arab families (sometimes for generations), laws that restrict the Arab-to-Jew ratio in cities like Jerusalem, as well as the official position of the Israeli government that Israel is a Jewish state -- all of these things have only made it worse.
And the undeniable fact that the more repressive Israel gets, the worse the anti-Israel violence grows, doesn't seem to have been absorbed by the people in charge there or here at home or, obviously, by some people posting to this board.
The fact is that we in the USA have a lot of say over what Israel does, not least of which because we provide them a lot of weapons. Our "special relationship" with them means that (1) we could stop this whole thing and (2) when terrorists attack us because of the Arab-Israel mess, they are doing what makes sense to them -- attacking the puppet masters. Unfortunately, we have allowed the Israelis to act unilaterally and we have NOT exercised the control we could be exercising over them.
This is the most intelligent post I've seen on the situation in a long time. Enough is enough. Israel faces annihilation. They are doing what any other nation would do. Hamas is a terrorist group as are most muslims. I say get rid of them all and we will have peace.
I admit that a lot of what you say is common sense, and I accept your point . What do you think could be done to settle this ongoing slaughter?
You have to remember, most Palestinian leaders do not want peace because most Palestinian leaders are not politicians, but "militant" or "terrorist" leaders (depending on your slant). Once peace breaks out, average Palestinians are going to start demanding results and accountability, especially for the rampant corruption.
So it is in their best interest to keep fighting since they know once there is peace, their positions of power will be seriously threatened.
I hope the whole region goes nuclear and millions die. Then after the dust settles and a few months go by, and Jesus STILL hasn't returned we can proclaim all the Abrahamic religions and milenialist views to be the falsehoods they are, send the fundies packing, and start dealing with the situation logically. The only people who benefit from all the turmoil over there are the people who sell weapons to either side. Must we go another century doing the same old things and expecting different results? How the hell do rockets get into Gaza anyway? Who is supplying them? Why doesn't Israel go after the SOURCE? If there is any reason for the US to develop alternative energy it is so Israel can do what it needs to without us telling them not to rock the oil cart-el. I'm sick of hearing about this region and I'm really sick of all the Bible thumpers predicting the second coming every time someone sneezes over there as it is so unproductive.
Horus: Israel dosen't go after the "source" because the source is the United States.
: - O
Gary Cooper...So you are saying the source of hammas rockets is the United States?
cgr: Who's God?
Have you seen him lately?
here we go again; america backed isreali gov. is at it again. Murder in the name of zionism - as they kill women, children and men of youth. with american arms and planes, isreal has forgotten the legal elections of Hamas into power as, america and isreal cried wolf when people choose their leaders as they seem fit. liken to the elections of Salvador Allende of Chile when america hated to see this man take power - they organized a Coup which lead to the Murder of Allende by the cia. and now, isreal wants to do the same - hating to see Hamas take power and provide justice that Fatah couldn't because of the corruption steeped within the veins of the PLO, that Hamas came into power. causing america and isreal to react like the cowards they are...bombing humans from 40K feet up or occupying land that rightfully belong to those of more than 1000 years. but the zionist with their corrupt religion steeped in the filth of @!$%# and rat piss, that they forced out with rape and murder, a people starting back in 1948 up until this day....the fight against the pigs of isreal will never end and soon the pigs will be put back in the pens Hilter established to kill lets say 3 million and not the 6 they vow to the world had died....no I don't believe that many died also....but the end is near for isreal - it had it's chance to be honest and just; but it choose to rape, murder, occupy and payoff all how had hands waiting for the all mighty green back....yes, the end is very near....right around the corner long live Barack Obama the secret MUSLIM in waiting
cgr: Can't you see that what Ghandi was trying to point out was that just because it was an idea based on a religon, you shouldn't necessarily follow it without some of your own original thought process applied to the situation. I can see though that original thought is still severly lacking in many people, even today.
Cain killed Able out of jealousy and you are still witnessing those acts today Gary.....your belief is that of a minority Sir.
You don't see the oxygen in the air do you Sir?....You do see it's results all around you everyday though.
I'd rather believe in something and live a lifetime of hell because of it than believe in nothing and lose an iternaty if wrong.
About time Israel retaliated against the Hamas rocket attacks. Regret innocent people caught in the middle. Enough is enough!
Update your story and this Israeli arrogance: more than 170 killed so far!! 170 Palestinians=1 Israelis. Rockets sent to southern Israel are called " bomarding" while this is merely called "IDF strike". The Jewish-controlled media considers us Americans gullibles and fools. But I have news for them- Americans are waking up; slowly, but surely...
I agree 100% people here do not see the full story people are being wiped of the earth that is in humain. not every thing the isrealy do is the right thing i think most of there action are wrong and full of hate to other people.
Speak for yourself, please. THIS American thinks that Israel is completely justified in acting as they have. Were Mexico to begin firing rockets into Texas, my government better put a stop to it whether those rockets kill anyone or not. Are you suggesting that the Israeli's should wait until the rockets killed more people?
The HUGE difference here is not about the number of people who died, but about the specific people targeted. Civilians were absolutely targeted by the Palestinians. The Israeli's, on the other hand, targeted specific military installations with unfortunate collateral damage. But that collateral damage could have been avoided if the Palestinians did not place their military installations in the middle of the civilian population.
Q: Why do you think that Hitler failed to exterminate the Jews? Why do the Arabs want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth? Why do so many people hate the Jews.
A: Because they are God's chosen people.
like CGR said earlier... "God loves us all, but the Jew is His first love and that will never change!"
Rob, you are full of it.
God's chosen people are ALL people.
Every religion seems think THEIR people are the chosen people depending on what book they are reading.
Religion is a crock. An element of control and nothing more.
One more note;
I am sick of hearing about how persecuted the Jews are.Was the Holocaust tragic, devastating and immoral...YES. However, the Jews have no more right to that than the American Indian, the Palestinian or the other multitude of peoples targeted for extinction by some more powerful, ruthless, chosen, holy, or otherwise intolerant people. Do these peoples constantly use the near extermination of their peoples in every element of their lives? Do they hold it as a club over the heads of other peoples to gain financially, politically or otherwise? NO.
Israel is committing genocide with regard to the Palestinians like Germany did to the Jews, the Poles, the Gypsies, the gays, the dissenters and others I may have omitted who sat side by side with the Jews in the concentration camps.
How can you even say that genocide is being committed? Israel has warned Hamas for THREE WEEKS... stop bombing our towns or we will take action. If Hamas gave a damn about the populace of the Gaza strip, they would have heeded the warning.
They have warned Hamas as they have starved the Gaza strip of supplies from the world.
They have made Gaza into a Ghetto like those some of them had to live in under Hitler.
They have not started to systematically kill them and that makes them NOT HITLER.. the comparison is only to one aspect of the occupation.
Janell B,
According to the bible, they are God's chosen people.
Rachel,
First of all the people caught clapping and jumping for joy at the fall of the towers on 9 11 were Mousad. All of the young Jewish "art students" selling toys and foot scrubs in malls around the country were Mousad agents, who miraculously disappeared after 9 11.
Second ANN787738- The Jews are destined to roam the Earth and live PEACEABLY among it's inhabitants untill the end of times when the Messiah comes and all humans will be brothers. That is what the Torah says. The Zionist has been the scourge of humanity since it's inception.
Do you mean Mossad, if you are going to lie about something at lest get the spelling right.
The Nazi movement thought you well blame the Jews for everything.
crap
Janell b, #74
I can't agree with you more...
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